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to　see　our　speeches　in　print；　that　you　will　find　every　question

which　he　has　asked　me　more　fairly　and　boldly　and　fully　answered

than　he　has　answered　those　which　I　put　to　him。　　Is　not　that　so？

The　two　speeches　may　be　placed　side　by　side；　and　I　will　venture

to　leave　it　to　impartial　judges　whether　his　questions　have　not

been　more　directly　and　circumstantially　answered　than　mine。



Judge　Douglas　says　he　made　a　charge　upon　the　editor　of　the

Washington　Union；　alone；　of　entertaining　a　purpose　to　rob　the

States　of　their　power　to　exclude　slavery　from　their　limits。　　I

undertake　to　say；　and　I　make　the　direct　issue；　that　he　did　not

make　his　charge　against　the　editor　of　the　Union　alone。　　I　will

undertake　to　prove　by　the　record　here　that　he　made　that　charge

against　more　and　higher　dignitaries　than　the　editor　of　the

Washington　Union。　　I　am　quite　aware　that　he　was　shirking　and

dodging　around　the　form　in　which　he　put　it；　but　I　can　make　it

manifest　that　he　leveled　his　〃fatal　blow〃　against　more　persons

than　this　Washington　editor。　　Will　he　dodge　it　now　by　alleging

that　I　am　trying　to　defend　Mr。　Buchanan　against　the　charge？　　Not

at　all。　　Am　I　not　making　the　same　charge　myself？　　I　am　trying　to

show　that　you；　Judge　Douglas；　are　a　witness　on　my　side。　　I　am　not

defending　Buchanan；　and　I　will　tell　Judge　Douglas　that　in　my

opinion；　when　he　made　that　charge；　he　had　an　eye　farther　north

than　he　has　to…day。　　He　was　then　fighting　against　people　who

called　him　a　Black　Republican　and　an　Abolitionist。　　It　is　mixed

all　through　his　speech；　and　it　is　tolerably　manifest　that　his　eye

was　a　great　deal　farther　north　than　it　is　to…day。　　The　Judge　says

that　though　he　made　this　charge；　Toombs　got　up　and　declared　there

was　not　a　man　in　the　United　States；　except　the　editor　of　the

Union；　who　was　in　favor　of　the　doctrines　put　forth　in　that

article。　　And　thereupon　I　understand　that　the　Judge　withdrew　the

charge。　　Although　he　had　taken　extracts　from　the　newspaper；　and

then　from　the　Lecompton　Constitution；　to　show　the　existence　of　a

conspiracy　to　bring　about　a　〃fatal　blow；〃　by　which　the　States

were　to　be　deprived　of　the　right　of　excluding　slavery；　it　all

went　to　pot　as　soon　as　Toombs　got　up　and　told　him　it　was　not

true。　　It　reminds　me　of　the　story　that　John　Phoenix；　the

California　railroad　surveyor；　tells。　　He　says　they　started　out

from　the　Plaza　to　the　Mission　of　Dolores。　　They　had　two　ways　of

determining　distances。　　One　was　by　a　chain　and　pins　taken　over

the　ground。　　The　other　was　by　a　〃go…it…ometer；〃an　invention　of

his　own；a　three…legged　instrument；　with　which　he　computed　a

series　of　triangles　between　the　points。　　At　night　he　turned　to

the　chain…man　to　ascertain　what　distance　they　had　come；　and　found

that　by　some　mistake　he　had　merely　dragged　the　chain　over　the

ground；　without　keeping　any　record。　　By　the　〃go…it…ometer；〃　he

found　he　had　made　ten　miles。　　Being　skeptical　about　this；　he

asked　a　drayman　who　was　passing　how　far　it　was　to　the　Plaza。　　The

drayman　replied　it　was　just　half　a　mile；　and　the　surveyor　put　it

down　in　his　book；just　as　Judge　Douglas　says；　after　he　had　made

his　calculations　and　computations；　he　took　Toombs's　statement。　　I

have　no　doubt　that　after　Judge　Douglas　had　made　his　charge；　he

was　as　easily　satisfied　about　its　truth　as　the　surveyor　was　of

the　drayman's　statement　of　the　distance　to　the　Plaza。　　Yet　it　is

a　fact　that　the　man　who　put　forth　all　that　matter　which　Douglas

deemed　a　〃fatal　blow〃　at　State　sovereignty　was　elected　by　the

Democrats　as　public　printer。



Now；　gentlemen；　you　may　take　Judge　Douglas's　speech　of　March　22；

1858；　beginning　about　the　middle　of　page　21；　and　reading　to　the

bottom　of　page　24；　and　you　will　find　the　evidence　on　which　I　say

that　he　did　not　make　his　charge　against　the　editor　of　the　Union

alone。　　I　cannot　stop　to　read　it；　but　I　will　give　it　to　the

reporters。　　Judge　Douglas　said：



〃Mr。　President；　you　here　find　several　distinct　propositions

advanced　boldly　by　the　Washington　Union　editorially；　and

apparently　authoritatively；　and　every　man　who　questions　any　of

them　is　denounced　as　an　Abolitionist；　a　Free…soiler；　a　fanatic。

The　propositions　are；　first；　that　the　primary　object　of　all

government　at　its　original　institution　is　the　protection　of

persons　and　property；　second；　that　the　Constitution　of　the　United

States　declares　that　the　citizens　of　each　State　shall　be　entitled

to　all　the　privileges　and　immunities　of　citizens　in　the　several

States；　and　that；　therefore；　thirdly；　all　State　laws；　whether

organic　or　otherwise；　which　prohibit　the　citizens　of　one　State

from　settling　in　another　with　their　slave　property；　and

especially　declaring　it　forfeited；　are　direct　violations　of　the

original　intention　of　the　Government　and　Constitution　of　the

United　States；　and；　fourth；　that　the　emancipation　of　the　slaves

of　the　Northern　States　was　a　gross　outrage　on　the　rights　of

property；　in　as　much　as　it　was　involuntarily　done　on　the　part　of

the　owner。



〃Remember　that　this　article　was　published　in　the　Union　on　the

17th　of　November；　and　on　the　18th　appeared　the　first　article

giving　the　adhesion　of　the　Union　to　the　Lecompton　Constitution。

It　was　in　these　words：



〃'KANSAS　AND　HER　CONSTITUTION。The　vexed　question　is　settled。

The　problem　is　solved。　　The　dead　point　of　danger　is　passed。　　All

serious　trouble　to　Kansas　affairs　is　over　and　gone。。。。〃



〃And　a　column；　nearly；　of　the　same　sort。　　Then；　when　you　come　to

look　into　the　Lecompton　Constitution；　you　find　the　same　doctrine

incorporated　in　it　which　was　put　forth　editorially　in　the　Union。

What　is　it？



〃'ARTICLE　7；　Section　i。　　The　right　of　property　is　before　and

higher　than　any　constitutional　sanction；　and　the　right　of　the

owner　of　a　slave　to　such　slave　and　its　increase　is　the　same　and

as　invariable　as　the　right　of　the　owner　of　any　property

whatever。'



〃Then　in　the　schedule　is　a　provision　that　the　Constitution　may　be

amended　after　1864　by　a　two…thirds　vote。



〃'But　no　alteration　shall　be　made　to　affect　the　right　of　property

in　the　ownership　of　slaves。'



〃It　will　be　seen　by　these　clauses　in　the　Lecompton　Constitution

that　they　are　identical　in　spirit　with　this　authoritative　article

in　the　Washington　Union　of　the　day　previous　to　its　indorsement　of

this　Constitution。



〃When　I　saw　that　article　in　the　Union　of　the　17th　of　November；

followed　by　the　glorification　of　the　Lecompton　Constitution　on

the　18th　of　November；　and　this　clause　in　the　Constitution

asserting　the　doctrine　that　a　State　has　no　right　to　prohibit

slavery　within　its　limits；　I　saw　that　there　was　a　fatal　blow

being　struck　at　the　sovereignty　of　the　States　of　this　Union。〃



Here　he　says；　〃Mr。　President；　you　here　find　several　distinct

propositions　advanced　boldly；　and　apparently　authoritatively。〃

By　whose　authority；　Judge　Douglas？　　Again；　he　says　in　another

place；　〃It　will　be　seen　by　these　clauses　in　the　Lecompton

Constitution　that　they　are　identical　in　spirit　with　this

authoritative　article。〃